BREAKING: Former EU Ambassador Gordon Sondland Sounds Alarm on China, Fentanyl and Putin in New Episode of We're Out of Time Podcast, Tuesday, June 10

Sondland Calls China 'Complicit' In The Fentanyl Crisis, Says President Trump's EU Tariff Threat 'Shut Them Down,' And Predicts Putin Will Gain Land, Unless The U.S. Floods Ukraine With Americans

LOS ANGELES, June 9, 2025 /PRNewswire/ -- As We're Out of Time climbs the charts, reaching #3 in Apple Podcasts' Mental Health category and #6 in Health & Fitness, host Richard Taite, a nationally recognized addiction recovery expert and founder and executive chairman of Carrara Treatment and executive chairman of 1 Method, welcomes former U.S. Ambassador to the European Union Gordon Sondland. In a headline-making debut, Sondland delivers sharp, behind-the-scenes insight on global flashpoints—from China's role in the fentanyl crisis to Trump's proposed 50% EU tariff to the future of the Russia-Ukraine war.

"Having Gordon on the show is a game-changer," said Richard Taite. "This episode gives Americans a rare window into how global decisions are shaping our addiction crisis here at home and what we need to do about it."

Known for his raw and unflinching conversations with celebrities, musicians, recovering addicts, and rehabilitation experts, Taite doesn't shy away from hard truths, especially when it comes to fentanyl. He calls Donald Trump "The Fentanyl President" for making the crisis a top priority, and says China's role in supplying precursor chemicals must remain in the spotlight.

Headline-making moments from the episode include:

'China Is Complicit': Former EU Ambassador Sondland Says Fentanyl Crisis Is Strategic
Former U.S. Ambassador to the EU Gordon Sondland says China isn't just looking the other way on fentanyl—"they're complicit." He adds, "I think they're assisting in the effort, not just saying go ahead… You get people hooked or killed on that substance… they don't have to shoot a bullet at an enemy. They let the enemy kill themselves with that drug." Host Richard Taite, calls it a national security issue, based on years of treating veterans unknowingly exposed to fentanyl. "I call him [Trump] the fentanyl president…he's moved fentanyl to the top of the list when he talks about China." Sondland agrees, "At the top of the list whenever he brings up our trade issues with China is fentanyl. He talks about it all the time. They're the number one producer of the precursors…I think he's bringing it out to the top of the agenda."

Ex-Ambassador Sondland Warns: Trump's July 9 Tariff Deadline Is Real; 'Essentially Shuts Them Down'
Gordon Sondland, former U.S. Ambassador to the EU, breaks down Trump's hardline trade strategy with Europe. "Every president for 40 years has asked the Europeans to drop some of these trade barriers…and they've just tapped the U.S. along and nothing happens. So, for the first time, Trump said 'okay fine, while you're thinking about it, it's a 50% tariff,' which essentially shuts them down. And all of a sudden, within hours…the phone rings — 'okay, okay, okay, we want to talk.'" Sondland says the July 9 deadline is real. "Trump and his team will figure out how to impose them if the Europeans do not relent on some of their protectionist policies. I really believe that."

President Trump Insider Predicts Putin Will Take Land, But Says U.S. Needs to 'Flood Ukraine with Americans'
Ex-Ambassador Gordon Sondland offers rare insight into President Trump's private diplomacy with Vladimir Putin and predicts how the war in Ukraine could end. "He praises them in public. In private he says things like, I'm paraphrasing, 'Vladimir, you're unbelievable, you live in beautiful palaces, you're worth hundreds of billions…I love it, and I love you. But just remember, if you hit Ukraine, I gotta bomb the sh*t outta you…I probably have to kill you.'" Sondland says the war escalated under Biden's inconsistent strategy and argues even moderate U.S. support could have changed the outcome. Host Richard Taite asks, "So how does this end?" Sondland replies, "Putin sadly is going to wind up with some Ukrainian real estate. But the deal has to be—we flood Ukraine with Americans. Not troops. Business people. Infrastructure builders. Miners. Bankers. And the message becomes: Next time you try it, you're hitting us, not just Ukrainians."

Full Episode Drops Tomorrow, Tuesday, June 10

Available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and YouTube under We're Out of Time. 

About We're Out of Time:
Hosted by Richard Taite, a nationally recognized addiction recovery expert, entrepreneur, and founder of Carrara Treatment and executive chairman of 1 Method—We're Out of Time blends personal stories, policy insight, and cultural commentary to confront America's addiction crisis head-on. The show has reached millions and now ranks in the top 10 in two major Apple Podcast categories.

Past guests include former NBA star Lamar Odom, actor and comedian Jay Mohr, HGTV's Izzy Battres, rapper Famous Dex, and award-winning journalist Kelly Wright. For National Fentanyl Awareness Day, the show featured Los Angeles D.A. Nathan Hochman and Matt Capelouto, the father behind Alexandra's Law, now part of California's Proposition 36. The podcast also regularly features a powerful mix of celebrities, comedians, musicians, influencers, recovery experts, and formerly homeless changemakers.

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